Full lightening article here which includes quote above.
"The transient nature of these adult leaders, who in this instance, were called by ministers in their local LDS church to act as Scout leaders — sometimes only for a very short time — assured that there would be little continuity or consistency in the hazardous weather training they received," the suit argues.
Full drowning article here. (Some in the comments section have stated that because this boy in this article was 17, he was an adult and should have know better. I find that highly offensive. The adult should have known better.)
I feel bad for all of these parents. I actually feel bad for the leaders too. They have to live with this on their conscience for the rest of their life. No matter, the Church still has a transient nature for leaders hence the lack of training. Training will not remove all fatalities but it will limit them. I have heard it a million times before:
- I won't be here long so I don't need to get training.
- How hard it is to teach a merit badge each week?
- Roundtable is just another meeting to go too.
- I will learn on the job. No need to get trained.
- We will call this a Priesthood gathering hence I don't need to use Scouting standards.
- I was a scout as a kid, so I know what I'm doing. I don't need to get trained. (via Eric the Half-Bee)
- I've been set apart; the Spirit will tell me everything I need, so I don't need training. (via Eric the Half-Bee)
- The Church is dropping Scouting in the near future anyway, so I don't need training. (via Eric the Half-Bee)
I refrain from most of my thoughts on the comment but I will say this - parents bear ultimately are responsible for their children which includes but isn't limited to going on all outings with their sons. They should know the who, where, what and when of who their son's leaders are. I am pro non-LDS troops especially if the LDS Troop has untrained leaders with a Bishopric that doesn't
I don't mean to sound harsh towards these boys parents. No matter what the circumstances, they don't deserve a dead son. I hope soon parents and Scout leaders will come together so that they can work TOGETHER to give their son the best Scouting experience in the world which includes many great and wonderful trained leader.
I have started battling the "training issue" with this scripture:
Wherefore, now let every man learn his duty, and to act in the office in which he is appointed, in all diligence. DC:107:99You can't learn your duty and act in your Scouting office in diligence if you are not trained PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
And because I was a criminal justice major, I would love to know how long each leader had been a leader and what their training was[n't].